Group Policy may not be applied to users belonging to many groups
This article was previously published under Q263693
This article applies to Windows 2000. Support for Windows 2000 ends on July 13, 2010. The Windows 2000 End-of-Support Solution Center is a starting point for planning your migration strategy from Windows 2000. For more information see the Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy.
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If a user is a member of many groups either directly or because of group nesting, Kerberos authentication may not work. The Group Policy object (GPO) may not be applied to the user and the user may not be validated to use network resources.
The Kerberos token has a fixed size. If a user is a member of a group either directly or by membership in another group, the security ID (SID) for that group is added to the user's token. For a SID to be added to the user's token, it must be communicated by using the Kerberos token. If the required SID information exceeds the size of the token, authentication does not succeed. The number of groups varies, but the limit is approximately 70 to 80 groups.
For many operations, Windows NTLM authentication succeeds; the Kerberos authentication problem may not be evident without analysis. However, operations that include GPO application do not work at all.
Service pack informationTo resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack for Windows 2000. For additional information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
260910 How to Obtain the Latest Windows 2000 Service Pack
Hotfix informationA supported hotfix is available from Microsoft. However, this hotfix is intended to correct only the problem that is described in this article. Apply this hotfix only to systems that are experiencing this specific problem.
If the hotfix is available for download, there is a "Hotfix download available" section at the top of this Knowledge Base article. If this section does not appear, submit a request to Microsoft Customer Service and Support to obtain the hotfix.
Note If additional issues occur or if any troubleshooting is required, you might have to create a separate service request. The usual support costs will apply to additional support questions and issues that do not qualify for this specific hotfix. For a complete list of Microsoft Customer Service and Support telephone numbers or to create a separate service request, visit the following Microsoft Web site: Note The "Hotfix download available" form displays the languages for which the hotfix is available. If you do not see your language, it is because a hotfix is not available for that language.
File informationThe English version of this hotfix has the file attributes (or later) that are listed in the following table. The dates and times for these files are listed in coordinated universal time (UTC). When you view the file information, it is converted to local time. To find the difference between UTC and local time, use the Time Zone tab in the Date and Time tool in Control Panel.
Note that you must use a registry parameter that is available with this hotfix to increase the Kerberos token size. See the "More Information" section of this article for additional information.
Date Time Version Size File name--------------------------------------------------------01/25/2001 02:24p 5.0.2195.2842 130,320 Adsldpc.dll01/25/2001 02:24p 5.0.2195.2835 348,944 Advapi32.dll01/25/2001 02:23p 5.0.2195.2816 502,032 Instls5.dll01/25/2001 02:24p 5.0.2195.2842 140,560 Kdcsvc.dll01/17/2001 01:17p 5.0.2195.2842 198,928 KERBEROS.dll12/19/2000 09:13p 5.0.2195.2808 69,456 Ksecdd.sys01/25/2001 02:24p 5.0.2195.2816 484,112 Lsasrv.dll01/02/2001 08:45a 5.0.2195.2816 33,552 Lsass.exe01/23/2001 05:06p 5.0.2195.2850 108,816 Msv1_0.dll01/25/2001 02:24p 5.0.2195.2844 912,656 Ntdsa.dll01/25/2001 02:24p 5.0.2195.2780 363,280 Samsrv.dll01/25/2001 02:24p 5.0.2195.2797 128,272 Wldap32.dll
Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products that are listed in the "Applies to" section. This problem was first corrected in Windows 2000 Service Pack 2.
Important This section, method, or task contains steps that tell you how to modify the registry. However, serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Therefore, make sure that you follow these steps carefully. For added protection, back up the registry before you modify it. Then, you can restore the registry if a problem occurs. For more information about how to back up and restore the registry, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
322756 How to back up and restore the registry in Windows
A registry parameter is available after you apply this hotfix that you can use to increase the Kerberos token size. For example, increasing the token size to 65 KB allows a user to be present in more than 900 groups. Because of the associated SID information, this number may vary.
To use this parameter:
- Start Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe).
- Locate and click the following key in the registry:System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\Kerberos\Parameters
- If this key is not present, create the key. To do so:
- Click the following key in the registry:System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\Kerberos
- On the Edit menu, click Add Key.
- Create a Parameters key.
- Click the new Parameters key.
- Click the following key in the registry:
- On the Edit menu, click Add Value, and then add the following registry value:Value name: MaxTokenSize
Data type: REG_DWORD
Value data: 65535
- Quit Registry Editor.
297869 SMS administrator issues after you modify the Kerberos MaxTokenSize registry valueAfter you set the value and the computer is updated, restart the computer. You can use Group Policy settings to set this value for all computers. If you add the registry key to computers before you apply the hotfix or Windows 2000 SP2, no changes take effect.
For additional information about this registry value, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
313661 Error Message: "Timeout expired" occurs when you connect to SQL Server over TCP/IP and the Kerberos MaxTokenSize is greater than 0xFFFF
300367 DCOM client may put memory on the wire
Frequently Asked Questions
- Question: Do I apply this hotfix from the hotfix package or from Windows 2000 Service Pack 2?
Answer: You can apply either the Q263693 hotfix or apply Windows 2000 SP2.
- Question: Do I have to modify the registry as mentioned in this article after I apply this hotfix?
Answer: By default, Microsoft supports the user belonging to 70-80 groups. If you want to support more groups, then you have to adjust the value in the registry accordingly. Follow the guideline example provided in this article.
- Question: Where do I have to apply this hotfix and make the registry changes?
Answer: You must implement the registry setting on every computer in the enterprise that is running Windows 2000 and/or Microsoft Windows XP. This includes domain controllers, member servers, and client computers. The hotfix is also required for computers that are running Windows 2000 Service Pack 1 or earlier.
- Question: I log on to the domain through Terminal Server Session (TS is running on Member Servers), so where do I have to install the fix?
Answer: Install the Q263693 Kerberos fixes on the domain controllers only.
- Question: How does this hotfix affect the system performance on authentication?
Answer: The token size will be a statically defined data structure. 65K is a relatively low penalty to pay for most systems. However, if the user is a member of ~1000 groups, the authentication time will be greater than if the number of groups is smaller. In other words, if the token size is increased, there should be no observable performance penalty other than memory resource consumption. This applies to operations including GPO initialization. This is because the actual Kerberos information sent on the wire is not of a fixed size. Its size depends upon the group/SID information required.
- Question: How does this affect the memory resource on domain controllers and workstations?
Answer: The domain controller generates the User Access Ticket, but the allocation is on the workstation. So you will see the insignificant memory usage on the workstations depending on the Token size you set in the registry.
ReferencesFor additional informations, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
277741 Internet Explorer logon fails due to an insufficient buffer for Kerberos
297869 SMS administrator issues after you modify the Kerberos MaxTokenSize registry valueFor additional information about how to install Windows 2000 and Windows 2000 hotfixes at the same time, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
249149 Installing Microsoft Windows 2000 and Windows 2000 hotfixes
Article ID: 263693 - Last Review: 12/05/2015 20:24:47 - Revision: 5.9
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